Take the Elevator
This podcast is purely about elevating people through individual life stories and experiences in the Elevator. In the Elevator, what's key is maybe changing your perspective; having self-actualization; embracing your purpose; and acting on it as we grow from one another. There is a whole different point of view when you look up to elevate.
Take the Elevator
379th Floor: Keep the Spark Alive
What if the spark you want isn’t missing—it’s just waiting for a better container? We zoom into the heart of our series on relationships: how creativity sustains love and trust across seasons. For parents, it’s not about elaborate plans; it’s about small acts that make a child feel uniquely seen—voices in bedtime stories, joint kitchen experiments, and rituals that turn chores into connection. For friendships, we share the power of custom traditions like a traveling birthday bag or quick voice memos that cut through distance. And for marriage, we open up about co writing children’s books, blending styles, and designing dates that resist autopilot—because novelty with meaning changes everything.
We also offer practical prompts to turn chaos into clarity and show why willingness beats talent. If you’ve ever felt stuck, overwhelmed by your own script, or unsure how to keep the spark alive, this conversation will give you tools you can use tonight: reframe friction as data, partner with real needs, and create rituals that scale love. Subscribe, share this with someone who needs a gentle pivot, and leave a review with your A, B, and C for thriving relationships—we’ll read our favorites on the show.
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Every day. Hello. Every day.
SPEAKER_02:Hey, it's Jen the Builder. And Corey. I paused for a moment, Corey, there, because you know what I was thinking. I was like, I wonder if we're gonna be able to make this 30 minutes because we have been going a little bit over.
SPEAKER_01:A lot of bit over, but it's all good.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, it is. And we've been gone for a couple weeks. Man, so I feel like there's so much there.
SPEAKER_01:There's a lot. Yeah, there's a whole lot here. So let's get ready to unpack a whole bunch of stuff.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, but first, hello everyone. Yay! How's it going? Hello. It's so good to be here with you. We have a lot to catch up on, but just want to prelude this with after the little bit of announcements and updates. Uh, we are on the last part of the series of relationships, the see today. Stay tuned. It's about creativity and relationships and how it keeps the spark going. So if you desire to keep the spark going and the relationships you love, stay here with us.
SPEAKER_01:Stay tuned.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, tune in. Lean in.
SPEAKER_01:So, Jen, tell us, let's just lightly brush over some of these amazing events that we both had an opportunity to be a part of. Uh, let's start with Inlandia, the book fair that was in Riverside. In Riverside, yes. The library. Yes.
SPEAKER_02:First, the building is huge.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I wanted to go in, but it was it was so special because it's the first one they've had.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:So anytime it's the first, they're getting a feel for it. I just want to give a shout out to the group of volunteers and the staff that put that together. They were so welcoming. They were figuring it out as they went and they did such a beautiful job. Thank you for the accommodations for the vendors. I really appreciated the air conditioned space because it was flipping hot that day.
SPEAKER_01:It was a monstrous of a hot day.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, and I got to use indoor restrooms versus potter potties. Yes. Um, which if I had to would be fine, but didn't have to.
SPEAKER_01:No, and they gave us some cold water and they really just kind of looked out for us to make sure that we were okay.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, absolutely. So we met some really cool authors. Yeah, so much fun. To my left was Nidia, and she lives here in Fontana, and for the life of me, I can't remember the name of her books, but it is around Hispanic culture and the family. So her first book was written about her family, um, husband, daughter, and son. And then to our right was Julian and his beautiful wife, Debbie.
SPEAKER_00:Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_02:And he wrote his first book on poetry saying, uh, what it was it again?
SPEAKER_01:Um connected to me somehow, some way or something to that effect.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, somehow connected to me somehow.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Um, very well done. They had a good turnout. Oh, I'm sorry, I have to say, and we read to kiddos and people who came to see us. That was fun.
SPEAKER_01:Let me let me pause real quick right there, Jim, because um our our two o'clock reading came around, and there was no one sitting in the chairs. It was a ghost town.
SPEAKER_02:And we had people show up for it, but it was like a handful, right?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, well, I'm getting to that. Okay. So there was no one over there sitting, and so the people that came to hear us read was with us. So just looking at that was a little daunting because I was thinking to myself, we're about to read to the people we invited here, which would have been fine.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:But on the flip side of it, Jen had did a little bit of undercover hustle and ran around connecting to the kids that day. Ran around and talked to some kiddos. And so they were made, they were prompt on time, and ready to rock and roll. And let me tell you, that was a blast. It's it's not for me, it's nothing like reading the book and the funny parts that I intended to be funny. You hear the little giggles.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:That that just makes my day. It just it just makes me feel so amazing.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it's one of the best parts, isn't it?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:For me, following the reading is when the kids came to our table and Corey, they just acted like they knew Kelly Kinga, like she was the homie.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:She's like, I want that book. That's Kelly Kinga. I said, What was your favorite part? And they were just able to talk about what they loved most about the book. Um, it remember that little girl when we asked her what her favorite part was? I loved it. Love your answer. She said, When Kenny got lost.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that was that was pretty funny.
SPEAKER_02:So good.
SPEAKER_01:Just not one of the parts of the book you would think people would really like, but she really liked the fact that this uh baby Marsupio was lost and on his own.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, in the dark. That was good. So that was in Landia.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And then during that same week, I feel, right? Like just a few days later, we were at the 39th Annual Children's Network Conference at the Ontario Convention Center.
SPEAKER_01:Which was pretty ginormous. And and forgive my my wording, but I I use words that mean a lot to me. That I would normally say ginormous, but I know that that's just a little bit too far, but it was pretty big.
SPEAKER_02:Well, let me wait, wait, wait. Let me just share. I get to be married to Corey, who is one of the most creative writers I know. So he would have referenced the grandness of this or the massiveness of this as he's like, it was Macedonia.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:So it was definitely Macedonia. Definitely.
SPEAKER_01:Um, yeah, we walked into this place, and I'm not even talking about where we were set up as far as that table, just in the Ontario Convention Center, and the the conference just branded amazingly. Branded all throughout the the walkway. So when we put post these videos and put uh some of the um social media stuff up, you'll see they held nothing back as far as rolling the red carpet out for us. And so then you get to the room where the vendors were, and again, just roll it out for us, took really good care of us, gave us top-notch everything service. Uh they fed us, they made sure that we were in the most comfortable accommodations possible. And then the networking. You want to touch on that, Jen?
SPEAKER_02:There's so much networking. We met tons of people that were in service to the community.
SPEAKER_01:Yes.
SPEAKER_02:Uh it I was just floored because there's so many different so types of people, those who work with foster kids and foster parents, those who um empathy for autism in California is one. And we've already plugged into her. We met some podcasters.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, we met people who feed the homeless, who some podcasters that are gonna join us on the show.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, we've got a couple actually, so that's up and coming. Yeah. So I love the podcast name of this duet, and I don't want to give their names up, but their podcast is Talk Early With Me.
SPEAKER_01:Talk Early To Me.
SPEAKER_02:Talk Early To Me.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, something to that effect.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it's about early child development.
SPEAKER_01:Right. But we're gonna get it all, so you're not gonna have to guess on what it is.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and then we got invited to other events, yeah. Which is so fun, and I can't wait till we get to talk about the creative creativity in that space once we get to that part of this episode.
SPEAKER_01:And I gotta cover this and then I'll let it go. Um, it's just wonderful to run into like-minded individuals. It's also amazing when you got advocates fighting for the same thing that you're fighting for, for literacy, for safe places, for kids not to be harmed, for kids not to be abused, for kids not to be trafficked, for kids to be able to have a safe home environment. And you got all these levels of people working together. It's not as hopeless as we think it is. So I'm just sending a shout out to the children's conference, uh, children's networking conference for being such a huge advocate for the same type of work that we're advocating for.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. So here's my last thing before we get into the the episode is when you look at them and we're all going through budget cuts, a bit of a crisis in the financial world right now.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:When you come across a non-profit and they've got a fundraiser and you're able to give, maybe it's not money, maybe you can volunteer, but it just really impressed on me what community means, especially. I think community actually becomes more outstanding when it's above the financial constraints, and there's something that happens when it's built from um uncertainty, a little bit of feeling of chaos for like what's happening here.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:So just want to encourage everyone who's doing the work that um we stand by you, and your work is not going in vain.
SPEAKER_01:We're definitely gonna stand by and stand strong. And and as Jen said, but the one thing I did not hear, I didn't hear anybody complain about money.
SPEAKER_02:No, not at all.
SPEAKER_01:And hear anybody talk about the budget was short or they didn't have enough money. Everyone knew what the work was about. They just buckled in and got it done.
SPEAKER_02:That's right.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:So it's so appropriate that we would talk about creativity for the last part of this series. What we believe here is that when we honor the creative spark, whether it be in a marriage, a partnership, working relationship, friendship, parent-child, that it keeps the love, the connection, and the growth alive. So we're gonna jump in and explore it a little bit. And Corey, if it's okay with you, let's start with the parent-child relationship.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:So, how do you see creativity bridging the generations between parent and child?
SPEAKER_01:Um, well, that's it's difficult for me because I'm not involved in that relationship currently, as far as you know, child parent. Uh, I do talk to our children, obviously, but it's it's it's such a different level of communication at this point. Um I definitely remember what it was like to be creative with the kids, and I told them, I gave them a heads up on what I was doing. So they it nothing shocked them or hit them by storm. Uh, I I did not lie to our kids. I promised them that I wouldn't lie to them, and so I tried to keep that to a hundred percent to just tell them exactly what it was so that I didn't have to double back. And that was one of my most creative ways to build a good, positive, strong relationship with them. And if it was something that I couldn't talk to them about, I probably shouldn't have been doing it. So I I just didn't even venture into that world of what I shouldn't be doing. I just told them like it was.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I really love that, and I'm gonna bring up some things that I feel are gonna be pretty nostalgic. So when I think of us as parents to our children, I remember things like you playing Bratz dolls with Kayla and making up a whole story and actually getting in her room, having the dolls in your hands, and they're having dialogue. And I just thought that was really special, right?
SPEAKER_01:Um, I remember that. That was that was pretty cool.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. And then we would have creative fun with the kids in the neighborhood.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_02:We had dance-offs, um, they had little parties in the backyard, and then Kayla would have her friends over and they'd build like blanket forts, and we might have been a part of that or just like checked in on them.
SPEAKER_01:Definitely was a part of it, definitely helped build the the structures of the forts, and and I just remember knowing that I needed to be present a hundred percent, no matter what. I also knew that I I wasn't okay with kids outside playing by themselves and strange things happening, uh awkward kissing moments or awkward liking moments, awkward touching moments. I wasn't having it. I just was like, if I'm there, it won't happen. So I'm always gonna be there. Right. To the point to it was a little bit of a detriment because kids was knocking on the door asking me, Can I come out and play? And I'm like, uh, our kids are out of town, so no, I will not be coming out to play with you.
SPEAKER_02:Right. Yeah, that was super fun. And I think that also expanded into us working with youth. So our kids were in the youth group and talk about creativity. Um, I think it was important for kids to see adults being playful, imaginative, and curious. So during that time, Corey, you wrote a play called Circus Bazaar. We were doing dancing, we were having the kids play instruments, getting them behind the microphone to sing. They were doing video ads for church announcements. It was unbelievable the level of creativity, and it just kept giving. And what I loved about it is that those activities made these kids feel uniquely seen.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Right. So we brought out their gifts. And so the question I would ask any parent who's listening right now is what story, song, or activity would make your child feel uniquely seen by you today? Let's say it's a bedtime story and they like to do voices or they like to sing, incorporate that in there, right? Or just creating an everyday task and turning it into creative bond moment, bonding moment. Cooking is perfect.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Cooking, just being in that kitchen and creating something new together, phenomenal stuff. All right. Um, oh yeah, I'm gonna put a plug in here because that's why I love the fuzzy furry forest books, because parents, guardians, you can make the most fun with these books by giving the characters um your voice and just having fun with the dialogue.
SPEAKER_01:Not only your voice, but your energy as well. Yeah, and that's where the true creativity comes in, is when you lend that energy into what you're trying to accomplish with your own your own child or your own uh children in the setting where you're reading the book.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, absolutely. So let's talk really quick about creativity and friendship, and we're gonna mix this in with family. Um creativity. I have friends who are out of state, and we don't even stay connected on a phone call. It's through every other way. But it's how sometimes you can stay connected across distance, time, and life seasons, right? And even your friends that you get to see all the time. So when I think about this, Corey, because you know, this is my favorite, one of my favorite things to do, is you send a funny birthday voice memo, or you do something different for their birthday, or you start a tradition that's just for you two. So for example, I have a really good friend, and our tradition now is when we do birthdays amongst each other, we use the same bag, right? And I've I have this other friend with her friend, they have a Snapchat going on for thousands and thousands of days now.
SPEAKER_01:I so I'm gonna back up just a little bit. I did not know that. So say more about the bag thing because that's pretty interesting. It's like the sisterhood of the traveling pants, but it's the birthday bag of traveling birthdays.
SPEAKER_02:So when it's her birthday, I gift her and it's in that bag. She holds on to it when it's my birthday. I know it's coming in that bag.
SPEAKER_01:That's pretty nice. I like that.
SPEAKER_02:And we and we take really good care of that bag.
SPEAKER_01:I bet.
SPEAKER_02:Um, yeah, I just think that is creative. Yeah, that's really cool. Can you think of anything that you might have done in a friendship or in family that brings creativity?
SPEAKER_01:To that level, no, but uh, I mean, that's pretty cool. I'm sitting here thinking, like, man, I've I don't think I've ever done anything like that. Oh no.
SPEAKER_02:I I I think it's great that you have a family chat and that you just like do these rando texts in there.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, yeah, yeah. Um, well, I mean, I kind of think I and tell me if I'm wrong. I I think that most families, uh, and not the entire family, but the you know, parts of the family, cousins or uncles, uh, you know, brothers and sisters or whatever, have some kind of chat. And what's fun for me is just to do a random check-in. Like, yeah, just hey um happy Friday. Just checking in with the family. Hope everyone's doing good, have a great weekend. And then everybody chimes in, and it's just it's great because you get to hear or not not hear physically, but hear everyone check in. So it's great.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that's that's beautiful. Last but not least, speaking of random creativity means you're creating a new way of being. So we've talked about on the podcast where you and I, Corey, went to Arizona for your cousin's birthday. We have a lot of family, and if we were to do that for everybody, that would be intense. But this was a special birthday, right? She's turning 60.
SPEAKER_01:Turning turning 60, and um, excuse me. And we hadn't seen her in a very long time. I hadn't actually saw her in probably 10-15 years, and this was my dad's sister's child, and and probably shouldn't let that kind of time go by without seeing your first cousin like that.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, let's welcome creativity in that space and get out of the mundane and bring some joy in into there and some surprises that always something new in time. Yes, all right. So, let's go uh creativity in marriage.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, now we're in my lane. All right, I can speak a little bit more free. Go ahead, give me the question.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, just right there. Um we know that in marriage things can fall into a routine, right? So, what have you done that's creatively reawakened our spark? Mmm, yes, I like that that's the question, though. Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_01:I didn't know that was an actual question. No, I'm playing. I knew that was a question.
SPEAKER_02:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:No, I just try to keep it different and keep it um, I try to stay on my toes. That way I'm keeping you on your toes, and then I think you're doing the same thing. So it's not the same old restaurant, it's not the same old uh places to to go and things to do. Where anybody that knows us knows we love Disney, and so we're always going there. So we just try to sprinkle a little bit of special, special sauce on it to do something a little bit different every once in a while.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I think our biggest creative moment was writing the books together, right? Because the first two were you.
SPEAKER_01:Say more.
SPEAKER_02:I got to play in that with you, but the third, and then books going forward, Corey's like, let's write it together. And that was another level of creativity because it's putting both writing styles together, coming as one on a storyline. That's been really fun.
SPEAKER_01:Um, can I can I speak to that a little bit?
SPEAKER_02:Please do.
SPEAKER_01:Um, I I honestly felt like the first two books were really well-written books, but I felt honestly like that third book was so much more elevated, so much more descriptive, and it gave a fullness of the characters and what was going on, and so we we carried that mantra into the fourth book as well, and so I'm just really excited about that creativity that I was lacking, and I'm not you know too proud to say, hey, there was more to be added to this.
SPEAKER_02:Thanks, Puna.
SPEAKER_01:Absolutely.
SPEAKER_02:So during creativity too, and I think the reason why it's so important in a marriage, in a partnership, is because there's a willingness to evolve and bring some new things. So I we're gonna share a moment. We were talking about the children's network conference that just happened this past week. And I'm going to talk about two words that totally can exist in the same space. And actually, when there's chaos, creativity I feel gets elevated. Um so I was stuck on a technicality. Here's my type A, my type A personality, the left side of my brain. I got stuck on an invoice, and I was so convinced that the math was wrong. And I was convinced on a price that it should have been, and I got stuck. And when you get stuck, you're not paying attention to the opportunities that are in front of you, just all the different ways to be creative because I feel I feel that being stuck actually opposes creativity, and so it felt chaotic. And in so many words, you told me this feels chaotic right there in the middle of Ontario Convention Center, day two. Was it day two? Yeah, it was day two. Yeah. And I learned so much from that moment, and you said, Jen, we need to figure this out and reset. Here's the things that we don't know as of yet, and this is something that we can visit later. So it took me a minute to reset. I'm very aware of that. And what I loved about that time is that it worked as a catalyst. So let me talk a little bit more to add to the level of chaos. So there, there's me, day two. Another part of the chaos is we had Corey and I had this wonderful elevator pitch that we put together that we were confident in. We had our marketing material all around us, and it just wasn't hitting with people. And it dawned on us that these are social workers, community health workers, psychiatrists, therapists, this is the work that they do. They teach, they're educators, they have and they shared with us, we have so much curriculum, we can't even get through it. So, although they honored and appreciated our work as authors and as curriculum designers and being presenters and musicians and all that, it just wasn't clicking. And so one could say, Oh man, this was a wash, right? Like, what are we doing here? And in comes Corey creative space, what happened then?
SPEAKER_01:Um, I just saw an opportunity to pivot, and I also saw another opportunity to lean into what I know we're we are very creative and good at. And upon seeing that, it was in real time, so I didn't have time to just say, okay, time out everybody. Let me go and have this conversation with Jen real quick, so she'll know what page we're on. I just started evolving in that moment, and then what I realized was that there was a need, and we could could provide an answer to that need, but I needed to answer it right away. So uh I began to also apply another aspect of our gifts and abilities, which is public speaking. Um, we've both been in that space many, many times, having fun with it because that's what we love to do. We and especially with kids and youth. Um, as Jen said earlier, we work with youth for uh about seven years together, and then I had my own time when I was working in the non-public school system. Uh, long story short, or maybe even a little bit longer, uh, we just pivot when we get stuck. We pivot when we get chaos, and that's when creativity really starts to breathe.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I what I saw was that it just thrived in the unknown. Corey and I started thinking, what do we do well that they may not do well and may be interested in? Speaking, music, soundtrack, podcasting, how to write in journal, how to self-publish, what's that process look like? So we're real time getting deeper into what Genko Sound Company is gonna do. Yeah, and it was just exciting because I'm listening to you create the elevator pitch real time on the workshops, and then I started being able to see it and then being able to talk about it, right? And it totally dismantled the thought process of this is the way it's always been done, or this is the way we practice. So, you know, what do we do? Well, what you do is you create space for new thinking, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:You never get stuck in trying to make a uh square peg go into a round hole. Yes, you always have to think a little bit outside of the box. Now, that's not to say that we always get it right, and that's not not to say that we haven't been there with that hammer trying to force it in, but I've had enough train wrecks in my life to know that this is not working, I gotta try something else.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, and I want to give a little sales 101, and it's something we knew, and it's interesting when you know things, but you don't lean into it, right? So creativity reactivates possibility, and it was brilliant when we we also shared out loud. Let's hear what they do, let's share then briefly what we do and ask them what's the possibility of us partnering and coming together? Yeah, how can you use us? How can we be of service to you?
SPEAKER_01:And even more so, how can they see us working with them? Yes, to bring about a better uh outcome in what they're doing.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. So I think when we limit ourselves, it forces us to think resourcefully because we were limiting. We kind of put this ceiling on us, like this is what we do. But then when we realized we were limiting, we went outside of that container and went into resource mode, right? Like, okay, this is what we need to do. Um, I think there was definitely some groundbreaking ideas during that time, which was a surprise. And I feel like um the question I asked myself is what can we do with what we already have or what we already know? So there was more direction and guidance by being open to being creative.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And I could go on and on and on.
SPEAKER_01:And I know we sound like we're Very excited. It's because we are.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And it it's it's exciting to be in the moment and living in the moment opposed to throwing in the towel and saying, you know what, I give up. This isn't working. I can't believe we did all this for absolutely nothing, and now everyone says they already have everything I need that I have.
SPEAKER_00:Yes.
SPEAKER_01:But that that's not the end of the story. And you write your story.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:It's up to each individual to say, this is enough, or I have more.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Absolutely. And something else, too, that I saw in people all around us in between the event in Riverside and then in Ontario is we met talented people, and creativity for me is less about talent and more about willingness. Because you can be talented and not be willing to create, not be willing to collaborate, not be willing to partner, right?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and let's address that.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:That in itself is a gift to be willing to do that. To be to have the the kind of heart to say, I'm willing to collaborate with you, even though I don't know you, even though I haven't seen what you do completely. And that's what a lot of what was going on happening in real time. And I loved it, not just with us, but with everybody. And here's another thing: there was a lot of trust going on amongst so many different groups of people, so many different walks of life. And I'm talking about from race to uh personality to backgrounds, and you're talking about educators with therapists and social workers and authors and then entrepreneurs, and everyone is trusting each other in this space, having honest conversation, which is amazing. So that all that creativity in itself was pretty moving.
SPEAKER_02:Absolutely. So for those who are interested in writing, and those who might want to go further and go look into self-publishing, Corey and I are doing workshops. So those will be announced soon. But let me start with some prompts that can really help you in the space of writing based on what we've talked about. So think about these questions, don't overthink them, and then just write your response, right? So think about a time when you created something beautiful during a difficult season and what it taught you. So what's something you created during a difficult season and what did it teach you? Next question, if you want another one or that other one didn't speak to you, is what does my inner voice say when things feel chaotic? And how can I lean into creativity to help me respond differently? So using creativity to be a response mechanism. Third, what creative outlet helps me process stress or uncertainty? A creative outlet that helps you process stress and uncertainty. I do want to put a PS in here. Creativity does not necessarily mean art, a book, a you know, drawing, music. Creativity means you're bringing something forward that's new. It could be creativity in the way you hold a meeting, honestly. Yeah, creativity is also problem solving, right? So that is what we're inviting in our relationships is be creative.
SPEAKER_01:And and even and I'm when I say this, not last and definitely not least, but thinking outside of the normal parameters that you're allowing yourself to think as a form of creativity. You you've just given yourself a free lane to operate in so that you can come up with something you've never come up with before.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Be bold. I know my creativity is silly. Be curious, and it creativity isn't perfection. I think we've established it's a willingness, right? Um, well, Corey, I love the ABCs. It would definitely take me on a journey. I was surprised as to what we came up with. Um, I thought it was pretty creative.
SPEAKER_01:I thought I think we had to live a few of those moments in order to complete this series.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, agreed. So, elevators friends, we hope you've laughed, cried, journaled, and grown with us through this series. And now we invite you to actually write your own alphabet, your own ABCs for relationships, one intentional act of creativity at a time, three letters, ABCs. What would you define as necessary for relationships to thrive? Well, you know us to take the elevator. We say, look up and let's elevate every day, elevate every day, elevate every day, elevate, every day.
