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378th Floor: Love in Action - Boldness in Relationships
Boldness gets mislabeled as being loud, forceful, or always “on.” We take it somewhere more genuine—courage guided by compassion, presence over performance, and the steady choices that bring peace into love, friendship, and family. From Kory’s childhood story about standing up for a new friend to GentheBuilder’s journey of unlearning cultural performance, we map the moments when boldness means speaking up, stepping back, or simply holding stillness together.
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SPEAKER_03:Hey, it's Jen the Builder and Corey. And we are on Take the Elevator. Welcome back, everybody. We love our elevator family, so it's so good to have you here today.
SPEAKER_02:So good to be here today.
SPEAKER_03:I am stoked about the fact that we're going into the second part of our series. But before we get into all of that, Corey, I think we agreed that there is one huge announcement that we'd like to share with our friends.
SPEAKER_02:Okay. Please take the floor. You may have it.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. I'm going to try to the best of my ability. Um, and Corey, you could fill in the details. So on Saturday, which would be the 11th.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:So 10, 11, Corey and I are going to be in Riverside at the library there.
SPEAKER_02:Inlandia uh book festival.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. So yeah, it's called Inlandia Book Festival at the Riverside Public Library. Yes. And it looks like it's an outdoor event.
SPEAKER_02:Definitely outdoor.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. So Corey and I, I don't know. It looks like based on the seating, we're one out of seven children's book authors, which is very different than our last event. There was about 60, one of 60. This is one of seven, maybe.
SPEAKER_02:Actually, it's uh one of ten.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, one of ten. Yeah. Okay. One of ten. And this one's a little different because guess what, guys? We are going to read Kelly Kanga on the author stage. Yes. Yes. And I think, not I think. No, no, it's not I think. I know. We are on at two o'clock.
SPEAKER_02:We are definitely on at two.
SPEAKER_03:Two o'clock.
SPEAKER_02:So if you can be there, you, if you can be there, that would be so great. Uh, with all the kids and all the family and all the people, so that we could read our book and have a warm welcome from everyone.
SPEAKER_03:Totally, totally. Okay. So I I want to share something because I'm going to enjoy the fact that we're on video. I realize that I'm wearing black again. Uh, black is a great color, but it's not my favorite one. I'm actually wearing a jersey, and I it's the number 22, and this has been my number for all time. And I was just talking to a friend, and her husband was all into watching football. So I thought, why not put a jersey on? Um, so here we are. Here we are. Just uh, and I think I know who's playing at the halftime show, but I'm gonna keep my thoughts to myself on all of that.
SPEAKER_02:Wait, wait, wait, because I heard something about somebody named Bad Bunny, and um I I I don't know much about this person, so Bad Bunny. I might have to do a little research to see who he is and what he does, or if it might not even be a he, it might be a them, it might be a her, it might be something totally different.
SPEAKER_03:You really don't know Bad Bunny, do you?
SPEAKER_02:I don't have a clue.
SPEAKER_03:Well, I can't wait for you to look this person up.
SPEAKER_02:Sure.
SPEAKER_03:Yes, okay. So it's funny because Bad Bunny starts with a B, but that's not who we're talking about today in in our ABCs of relationship. So last time we talked about A for advice, and today we're going a little deeper. So today, B is for boldness, right? And before you think that boldness means being loud or bossy, what we're actually talking about is the kind of boldness that takes heart, takes heart and looks for peace. And so we're gonna try to tie that together.
SPEAKER_02:I really like that, Jenna. Let me tell you why I like that so much. Because it takes a certain kind of person to have a heart for other people.
SPEAKER_03:It really does.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, because a lot of people don't really care. I I was in that category for a long time. It took me a while to understand how to care and then why to care for other people.
SPEAKER_03:That's very honest of you, and I think that's uh could be difficult for some people to say, um, I don't really care about what you know, other people. Right. And so we just want to acknowledge that that's how some people are. So today we're actually going to respect and honor that and say boldness is part of also being yourself, right? Because we've seen one too many relationships and maybe have been in some relationships where we weren't who we are. And I don't know if you all have been there, but it's not a good place to be. So we want to talk about boldness that says say what you really feel, right? And then show up fully present. And we do want to add this, and sometimes boldness means being able to release, let it go, and walk away.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Man, okay. So let's talk about some brave choices here, Corey. Um, and I'm gonna have you start, and we're just gonna dance together around this word boldness and see what comes up. But we are focusing on certain types of relationships today, and that's on your love relationships.
SPEAKER_02:Let's get out of here.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Um, so love relationships, families, friends, and we're gonna touch on generations just a little bit. Uh, as you and I were talking, Corey, we had said really there's some choices in boldness and relationship. We're just in relationships, period. Uh, what we're inviting you today is to determine am I in a space or I'm in a place where I'm in a relationship where I need to speak up, right? So I'm gonna step in, step up, or maybe I'm in a relationship where I need to step back. So those are kind of the three that we're dancing with.
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_03:Step up, step in, and step back. So, where do you want to start, Corey? You get to pick.
SPEAKER_02:So, I'm gonna start with uh the brotherly love and the boldness, boldness of caring about a friend. And I'm starting there on purpose because uh I said something that may have moved people in the very beginning, um, that I didn't always care for people. Now, just know my trauma of being bullied had a lot to do with who I had become as a teenager and then a young adult. But before the bullying, I was a very compassionate individual. And I remember in the second grade first day of school, I was walking in the school and I ran into a kid that lived around the corner from me. I'd seen this kid before, but we never hung out. But we realized, like, oh, we live close to one another and we're going to the same school. Oh, and by the way, we're in the same classroom. So this was just win, win, win, right?
SPEAKER_01:Yes.
SPEAKER_02:Um, get to the classroom, and I'm I'm gonna say his first name, but not his last name, just so you know, we protect all identities. But Darnell and I were, you know, buddying up, being pals. And so uh we found our desk and then we had to go and gather on the carpet, which you know, elementary school kids do. And so we're sitting on the carpet, and the teacher is beginning to read and talk and explain what the the school year is gonna be about, and suddenly someone walks in from uh the administration office, and I gotta tell this story the way it happened because if you if you understand how this works, this is this is pretty shocking. So the the administrator says, I need to speak to Darnell, and he goes out of the classroom, and I didn't see this kid for a week. I have no clue where he went, I have no clue what's going on, and I'm really bothered by this because that was gonna be my best friend for the rest of the year. I made that plan, you know. We we live right around the corner from each other, we we're gonna see each other every single day. We're gonna walk to school, walk home, we'll be each other's little protection. So we're gonna be friends. Uh after the week passed, um, I found out that he was moved to a special education classroom. And that really offended me. And so I went over to the classroom, and it was on the far side of the building, which I thought was another situation, but we won't get into that. And here's where my boldness stood up and wanted to reach out to my friend and get a better understanding. I I understand he's different, but I don't understand why you have to move him way over here and give him a different time schedule so that I'm coming to school and leaving school at different times than he is. And so the teacher asked me to come inside the classroom and I developed a crush on another special ed student there during that time, not knowing that you know that was gonna happen. And I brought that up for another specific reason because later on in the year she got picked on, and so it was just this weird moment in my life that I was discovering that just because you're different, you get separated from everyone, and so that really broke my heart. And I said to myself, I don't care what kind of friend I have, I don't care how different they are, I'm not gonna separate them in my mind and in my life.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah. That explains a lot of who you are today. It really does. Um, the indifferences that we see, uh, and it's not that you're loud about it, but I can feel your energy when we see people who are put down or treated differently for sure.
SPEAKER_02:Absolutely, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:So it's a beautiful thing to have that boldness at such a young age in your friendships. Um, boldness for me came later on in life. So, you know, it's interesting, Corey, because this month is Filipino American History Month or Philam. And so I'm learning that a lot of who I was was a result of my culture.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:So in my culture, as a child, especially, you were not taught to be bold. Like I think we were taught exact opposite.
SPEAKER_02:I was about to say that the exact opposite.
SPEAKER_03:Yes, yes. So I learned though, so growing up, I was not bold for myself, but I was bold for everybody else.
SPEAKER_02:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:Uh, and so that was something that I realized, so we have that in common. And it wasn't until probably my early 20s that boldness came up in in myself. And then when I became aware of who I was, what my strengths were, it's okay to say no, it's okay to set boundaries. Then I was able to really be present for other people. And so, very different than you, I cared about people. I just didn't know how to show care for other people. I didn't know how to be present for anyone and really listen because I was so lost in my own stuff, you know, that kind of way. So here's what I'm going to say about boldness in relationships. I think for me, I've learned that presence is so much more than performance. I performed very well. I performed how to be a good child. I performed how to be a good friend. Meanwhile, I lacked all sorts of boldness because of all the stuff that was going on inside, you know, that kind of way. Yeah. So boldness for me showed up in relationship with self, um, saying that, okay, there's something wrong here. I need to talk to somebody, and this somebody, and I love my people, love, love being Filipino. That's a whole nother episode. But I realized it can't be someone who's Filipino, and it can't be truly someone from a church that helped me because that was part of my performance. I knew what they were looking for in a church, I knew what they were looking for in my culture, and I needed somewhere where I could just be.
SPEAKER_02:Wow.
SPEAKER_03:Right. So that was my bold move to step out of that so I could step in and find myself.
SPEAKER_02:That makes a lot of sense.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. So it's coming up that boldness is really courage. And and hearing you, I think it's courage combined with compassion. Right? Like I think that's the thing, especially when we're talking about relationships. So I have a question for you.
SPEAKER_02:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:Um, I'm not gonna my question was, but this it's too easy for Corey. My question was actually gonna be when was the last time you were bold enough to be your full authentic self in a relationship? That's we're not gonna ask that. What I'd love to ask you is that in relationships, it causes us to love boldly in action. And you were the first to say, I love you to me. And um, I just am curious about how that comes comes to you to just be the first not knowing what's what, and boldly in action profession.
SPEAKER_02:Good question, and I didn't say that to stall, which a lot of people typically do.
SPEAKER_03:That's a good stalling technique, though.
SPEAKER_02:Great question. Let me start here. No, um, so I'm I'm always really clear on how I feel. I'm always checking in, making sure, is this what you're feeling? Does this make sense? Is this irrational or does does this have validation in your mind, in your heart, and in your life right now? And with that consistent checking in to find those true feelings, it allows me to be true with myself opposed to telling myself a lie or or just going with what feels good for the moment. I've never been a go with the flow kind of person or go with what feels good right now. Um, so it's easier for me to just really dig deep and ask those those hard questions. And I didn't even find this out, Jen, but a lot of a lot of people don't ask themselves questions, they don't have those deep um conversations with themselves to say, how are you really feeling about this? Like, what's going on inside of you that's allowing you to feel this way? You know what I mean? So yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, so you did all that, and I will say that what I've learned from you in loving boldly is that it's deeply rooted, it's not reckless, right? Because of your practice, that when you choose to love someone boldly, you're thinking about your actions, you're asking yourself that question. Uh, I think we've shared this before, where man, one of the boldest things I've ever done and didn't know that we were doing it. Maybe you did, because you talked to yourself and asked yourself these questions. Is I did not fully process a blended family. I think when someone goes into a blended family, that's a bold move. Uh, because it's big. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Big, big. It it and it takes a lot of effort and energy to take that on. And and I pause slightly because I remember just thinking, I don't know if I'm completely prepared for this. I don't know if I can handle this kind of responsibility. You know, you're you're talking about another set of children that has a parent that has access to their lives, and they can change the trajectory of your parenting by simply interjecting at any given moment and minimize what you've said, and they're living in your house. The kids are living in your house, but they can change how things are gonna go, and so you have to be able to maneuver in real time and say, Okay, how how do I bounce back from that? They they just got their way from a parent that doesn't even live here. Yeah, what do we do? And when when I'm confronting that, I'm saying, yo, you really gotta get up early in the morning to figure this one out.
SPEAKER_03:Definitely, definitely. And and when I think of a blended family, I think uh speaking of dance, and I'm gonna connect this with advice, is that as we're talking about boldness and its love and action, is to remember that love and action is also about tenderness. So we can give advice all day long, but what I've learned from you and being with you and doing family with you is that we were able to decipher when with advice, of course, it needed to be coupled with feeling and gently giving it and being tender because that dynamic of blended is already volatile in itself. Not only are the adults trying to figure this out with other adults, you've got kids who are so like our sons were used to being the youngest child. Yeah, and so you get two boys, youngest, and when they get into when they got into their adolescence and then the hormones kicked up, that was a whole nother experience. Yeah, a whole nother experience. So for me, I also think the boldness was in staying in it. I'm not gonna lie. I mean, not just because we were blended, but we had other things and skeletons in our closets that we had not addressed, we hadn't even begun to heal from, right? And so you just kind of feel like this is too much.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, we were literally literally up to our ears in what do we do? How do we figure this out? And so if you're listening to this and you're saying, wow, how did you guys figure this out? It's it's not really about the the figuring it out. What this is really about is this just the commitment to saying, we're gonna do this no matter what, we're gonna get through this no matter what. And we we didn't have any answers, we didn't have any flashcards to flip over and say, oh, yeah, that's it. This is what we can do. We we had no one that was willing to sit down with us outside of professional help, which we didn't seek at the time. I think later on we did dial into some people that you know could feed into our lives, but at the moment, it was just uh trying to we were constantly adjusting. That's that's what I can say with an open, honest heart. We were constantly pivoting, how you just say that pivoting? Pivoting and adjusting.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's interesting. Gory and I have been together for 22 years, uh, and I wanted to share this. Um maybe two weeks ago, I just had a conversation with you, and just 22 years later, I finally had the courage, but I was I was waiting for the right timing to share something that was so vulnerable, even with my husband, it was vulnerable. Um, and just speak the honest truth. I think that's also part of being bold is honesty. And when you're in a relationship with the right person, there's no condemnation, there's no judgment, hopefully, there's more curiosity than anything, um, acceptance and love. And there we go again with tenderness, compassion.
SPEAKER_02:We say understanding yet, understanding.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah, definitely that. Definitely. Um, what's a bold act of love that you might be holding back in in a relationship? Not necessarily ours, but is there one a friendship, family relationship that is calling for boldness and you've kind of stepped back from it for whatever reason?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, you know what? It there's always that skeleton that we are terrified to let out, you know, and we can go down the list. You know, I was abused. Um I'm dealing with addiction. Uh I have, you know, may maybe it's some kind of illness that you're, you know, carrying or you you have or you're battling as far as like um and I'm go uh slightly deep. Even a sexually transmitted disease that you know, you're you're worried, like if I let this out of the closet, it's gonna change everything. And that's with a with a with a female to a male or a male to a female, or you just want to share this with your best friend who you've grown up with or you're growing up with, and you're like, I got this thing I'm carrying, and I don't know how to unload it, but I really want to. And so if I do this, I may be looked at, and then, you know, are you gonna eat with me? Are you gonna go to, you know, to the bathroom? Uh are you worried about what I can do to you or how I can affect you? So yeah, I can see how that, you know, and and I'm sorry for those listening to go so deep, but I have to because these are real situations people are dealing with.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah. I wasn't expecting that kind of depth, but it's needed. And I just thank you for bringing that up, because obviously someone needs to hear that. Yeah, definitely. I think for me, I'm trying, you know, boldness for me, especially in with my past relationships, um, including family, boldness is forgiveness, right? Because sometimes it's easier just to not deal and say, well, you know what? I'm I'm setting this hard. No, I I don't care to be in this relationship anymore. It's not getting anywhere, it's not good for me anymore, it's hurting me. And I think that's valid. I think there definitely are relationships that continue to hurt you, and the abuse is new. But when you're talking about something that's from years, decades ago, for me, there's room for forgiveness because that behavior isn't continuing, it's just something that's been left there. So, man, there is extreme boldness in being able to forgive and being able to have those hard conversations and just ask those honest questions. Um, man, it's just that there's a release. So the same way we say step back, I think that means more than one thing. Step back doesn't really mean exit. Step back might mean I just need this time a little bit, or I'm stepping back and I'm not going in with these um thoughts already made up. Maybe there's something that I need to understand. Right. And and I don't know what it is yet, right? So um I'm I'm grateful for the gift of forgiveness because forgiveness has not been one-sided. Sometimes we forget about that, right? Like, oh, they did me wrong or they hurt me, and I've got to be the bigger person and forgive them. I don't forget that I've been forgiven too. Yeah. You know, like it is it has not been, oh, I I rose above and I did not harm you or hurt you. Very aware.
SPEAKER_02:I'm gonna pause just for a second because I know that was that even saying that was tough for you. And um, I I know that I know you very well, and I know when when what plagues you, your mind, your your thoughts. And so um, I'm I'm gonna commend you on that one and and just say that you did a good job of that. Um, a lot of times our trauma will prevent us from even having casual conversation about the most simplistic parts of that trauma. We're not even getting to the the the weeds of it. You know, we're not even naming it, but it's just tough to just dance around that simple part of yeah, I I have to forgive. I I've been forgiven, and I didn't deserve it. And maybe they didn't deserve it. Maybe I shouldn't have forgave so easily. You know, it's all these things that just keep coming up, you know? Yeah and and guys, um, I'm gonna say this because I know someone out there is saying to themselves, do I have to forgive? No, you don't, but that burden on you is gonna be so heavy and it's hard to carry it, so you might as well just let it go.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And and begin to live and enjoy your life because once you let it go, and I'm not saying let it go like you don't think about it, you don't remember it. I mean give the the the past a forgiveness so that you can live boldly. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I really appreciate that you what you said that you we're not saying you have to forgive. And I want to say that because we care about people, do we highly recommend it? Yes. Because there's a freedom in that release, and it really helps you move in life. There you're not held back. Um, and if that's something that you're struggling with, please seek help, find a support system, and because you're you're important, and that that should happen.
SPEAKER_02:More important than that thing you're carrying.
SPEAKER_03:That's right. That's right. Okay, so we've been talking about talking and expressing and forgiveness and asking those honest questions, saying I love you, and just taking taking that bold move, not really knowing what's gonna be returned. There's also what we call the silent boldness. And so it's the you matter enough for my full attention, and right now I'm boldly gonna be in stillness with you.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Right? Um because Corey, when I say this sentence, tell me what you think, I say presence heals and connects.
SPEAKER_02:That that says that you being here, you being in the present, uh allows me to begin that process that that heals. And you being here also brings us closer, so that there's a connection.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Beautiful. So I think that's simply stated.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Um trust in the silence, trust in that stillness. It's a beautiful thing to be there. In fact, this weekend, I'm gonna say 80% of our time together was in stillness. There was really no exchange of words, we're constantly in dialogue, and sometimes just being in the same space is enough, right?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, but let me just clear the air because when clear the air then. When the time of silence is over. When the time of silence is over, Jen wants to talk. But to her credit, I want to talk.
SPEAKER_03:Yes, I love to talk. Yes. Do you remember when oh my goodness, true story? And I don't know if anyone's like this. If I sat in stillness and silence, what would I ask you?
SPEAKER_02:Anything to break the silence.
SPEAKER_03:I just remember typically it was what's wrong.
SPEAKER_02:What's wrong? Did I do something? Are you mad? Yes. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Yes, I really thought like I triggered him to be like silence was seen for me as like punishment or silent treatment or you're ignoring me.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and I I just do not, as I said last week, I don't do silent treatment. There's no rational reason to put anybody through that.
SPEAKER_03:Right. Well, let's go back though to what I said a few minutes ago.
SPEAKER_02:Sure.
SPEAKER_03:I think silence just killed me because I had to be in my thoughts. Oh, so before was I a constant noise maker, um, looking for anything to fill the quiet? Absolutely. Yeah. And um, that for me was a huge sign that I had issues with myself, issues with my thoughts, uh, and didn't want to deal with them.
SPEAKER_02:Right. Jen, let me ask you a question.
SPEAKER_03:Sure.
SPEAKER_02:So you mentioned the boldness and silence. Have you ever used that boldness not to validate to some uh not to validate someone or to not affirm someone? So you remain silent and they were looking for that. Well, you you do agree, right?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yep. Oh, this is such a good question because here's another bold move. We are taught, especially in my my field, in the line of work I do, what presence looks like, what it should, what it should sound like, the things that maybe you should even say. So interestingly, interestingly enough, it contradicts the human connection because now you're saying how presence should look.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_03:Uh so how have I used that? People have shared things with me, and I just hold the space, and what they'll teach you is, hmm, that's interesting. Or tell me more about that, right? Right? Those are really good um techniques, but I'm a firm believer that get past the techniques because then everyone learns that, oh, this is a technique. Is she really present? Or is she just like going through the motions?
SPEAKER_02:Right, right.
SPEAKER_03:So I with people that I'm in relationship with, I said, thanks for sharing that with me. And if I may, can I ask some questions so I can fully wrap my mind around what you're telling me? Okay, and then we have that conversation, and I think it's a beautiful, bold, loving, peaceful space to be in when two people can disagree.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And it's just that. Yes, it's I'm not taking it personally, it's just we don't agree.
SPEAKER_02:No, no, I totally understand. Uh, I just want to say something that I hope I trigger something in someone, and and I and I'm being very intentional about what that word, what I'm about to say. Yeah, um, there's a lot of coaches, there's a lot of people in this field of coaching people and asking questions and getting someone to think about what they're about to say or how they're gonna say it, uh, where they want to go. Guys, please understand, like me, my wife is a coach, so I know what it's like to be coached. You can't use coaching in every situation.
SPEAKER_03:In fact, believe it or not, it's part of the education you receive when becoming a coach.
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_03:Um I had a have, I have a good friend when I was in crisis, and she started asking me coaching questions, and I just was like, what are you doing right now? And I think I even said, you don't have permission to coach me right now.
SPEAKER_02:We have to be in an agreement.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it's like what I really want right now is just a friend.
SPEAKER_02:Right, right.
SPEAKER_03:Um, maybe to talk me off the ledge. And I think that's where it becomes dangerous when you take one method and you apply it to your whole life. I know for me, that when you allow me the space to share and you give me your thoughts, that's how people learn. Yeah, right. It's learning through other people's experiences, other people's opinions, and it's not forced, it's just here's this.
SPEAKER_02:And for us normies, meaning us people that are not coaches, we got to give grace for those that are just now getting through the process of becoming a coach. And we have to break that quite nicely. I learned I had to learn that the hard way because I I did say in the uh beginning of our experience, yeah, I don't want to be coached right now.
SPEAKER_03:Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_02:And even though it wasn't an aggressive, I don't want to be coached right now, what I was ultimately saying in that moment to her was this is not what I want, but it's never about what we want as individuals. We always have to take in consideration what both parties are in need of. So, hey, we'll let's provide a coaching opportunity later on. But right now, let's have this kind of conversation so that we can answer some of the questions that are are pertinent to what we're going through.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. That's a good point. Yep. And that reminds me that when we want to walk away with peace, and I don't know about you all, but man, peace is such a beautiful thing to have in your life, uh, especially, especially in the world we live in. Um so I asked myself, if I walked away with peace in certain relationships, what truth about myself would I be honoring? So if I want to walk away with peace, what truth about me would I be honoring? And sometimes it's just sitting and listening or asking the curious questions. But it what I'm saying ultimately is stay in line with your integrity and your values and what you're about. I feel like that is such a good North Compass. It's such a good guiding tool on how to be in your relationships, you know.
SPEAKER_02:I'm just gonna say it, Jen. I love how bold this conversation has been. I've enjoyed every step and every moment of it. And thank you for putting this together. It's helped me to even see a little bit more of a broader picture of what we're dealing with when we're talking about boldness in a relationship.
SPEAKER_03:Absolutely. And consistency with your character. So I'm I'm gonna end with this reflection question. You know how I just love these. Is think about where in your life do you need to love more boldly, to speak truth, to stay present, or to finally let go. We didn't really talk about the letting go piece. Um, but you can think about words like releasing, not resisting, again, staying true to your values, consistent with who you are and what you're about, and balancing that and knowing when enough's enough. Right. Um okay, Corey, share one answer before we go. What's this one small bold truth you could practice this week?
SPEAKER_02:Leaning in and understanding more. How about you?
SPEAKER_03:That's a good one. For me, it's more allowance for others to be. I that sounds very cryptic, doesn't it? Here's what I mean is that because I'm such a partner of people, that partnership can go overboard. And maybe the partnership is just being there and not necessarily giving an opinion, you know? Um what I love about this is that being bold doesn't have to start big. I think we emphasize this quite a bit on on the elevator, is that it starts with just it could be one honest word, one brave step, one moment of peace, and that's the boldness that comes out. I've got a lot to think about this week.
SPEAKER_02:You and me both.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, really good. Well, next um podcast, we're gonna end the ABCs because we'll be on C, and that'll be a little bit of a surprise. Um, please take a listen wherever you're at to this podcast. We are also now on YouTube on Jen the Builder. I personally um find it interesting to see the body movement and the facial expressions as we're doing this podcast, but you get to pick your flavor. We're just glad you're here. And you know us to take the elevator. We say, look up and let's elevate every day, elevate every day, elevate every day, elevate, every day.
