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356th Floor: Surviving the Lies Authority Tells Us

GentheBuilder and Kory

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What happens when those we trust to tell the truth are the very ones spinning the lies? From government officials to family authorities, we're constantly navigating a landscape where deception is often disguised as protection, tradition, or "for your own good."

Stephen Hawking once said, "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." This powerful insight frames our conversation about surviving authority's deception and finding truth in a twisted world. We dive deep into the psychological toll of being told one thing while experiencing another—that crushing cognitive dissonance that leaves us questioning our own reality.

We explore the telltale signs you're being gaslit by someone in power. Listen for those red flags: over-explanation, defensive reactions to simple questions, and philosophical word salads that never actually address your concerns. The truth rarely needs elaborate justification—it stands on its own.

But this episode isn't just about identifying problems. We share practical strategies for developing your personal truth filter, strengthening your intuition (which has fascinating connections to physical gut health!), and finding those rare trusted voices who stand firmly in integrity. Most importantly, we discuss what happens when we reclaim our truth after surviving lies from authority figures.

Whether you've questioned official narratives during global events or simply felt that something wasn't quite right in your personal relationships with authority, this conversation offers validation, insight, and a path forward. Because truth-telling isn't just about honesty—it's about survival.

What lie have you been living with because you didn't want to rock the boat? The answer might change everything.

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Speaker 1:

Hey, it's Jen the Builder and Corey, and welcome everyone to take the elevator. How is everyone? I know I'm good.

Speaker 2:

How are you?

Speaker 1:

I am feeling quite refreshed and rejuvenated. I'm excited I got a new doctor. Okay, I love him. I love how he builds rapport with me. He has empathy, he hears me, he values me, we're in a medical relationship. It feels good. I'm really excited about that.

Speaker 2:

That's good to hear. You don't hear that very often. So when people tell me that they have a good relationship with their medical doctor, it's encouraging because, like I said, you just don't hear that very often.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah. So I know that we have a full episode ahead of us, and so I'm going to give everyone a sneak peek. Is that okay? Before we give some shout outs, let's go. So I'm not sure if this is gonna be the title of the episode, but let's go with it. So it's surviving the lies authority tells us, and what we're gonna do in elevation today is finding truth in a twisted world. We can go a lot of places with this. I feel this is going to be a great episode. So tune in, share this episode with someone and let's get to it.

Speaker 2:

Let's do it, jen, before we get started in the meat of the conversation, though you know they have this term that people use in certain aspects of life conversation. Though you know they have this term that that people use in the uh, in certain aspects of life. They say you're cooking. That means you're doing pretty good with something you know. So, when you're doing well, say oh yeah, you're cooking, you're cooking, and so we are cooking right now because we have listeners all over the place. I mean, europe is jumping really well and I'm liking that, I'm loving that um, I love that.

Speaker 1:

Do you have specifics like countries in europe where we're seeing more activity and listening to the elevator?

Speaker 2:

um, I actually do, but I didn't want to single people out like that. You know, maybe further along in the uh digging of it, I single people. Okay, fine. So hooray Europe, hooray Europe. There's a place called Oceania.

Speaker 1:

That's another big location.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and that's doing pretty well. I can't say it right, but it's great, it's doing good. We're cooking, man, we're cooking.

Speaker 1:

How about Asia? Is Asia showing us some love?

Speaker 2:

Asia's showing us a little bit of love. But you know, North America is really putting work in Of course, yeah, so we're good with that.

Speaker 1:

Love that. I love that our fellow Americans are tuning in. And Corey, this just speaks to what we've been talking about. You know, with every business, there's always going to be some rebranding or revisioning right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Just kind of looking at where we're at. I really love where we're going, where we're talking about elevating everyone everywhere.

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

And so seeing the map on where this podcast goes really supports that. That's pretty awesome. Thank you everyone Also, yeah, For taking a ride with us.

Speaker 2:

Thank you so much. And also I just wanted to put it out there, if there's multiple ways to contact us, talk to us, engage with us. We have our website, thegencocom. You can find us there. You could also catch us on all of our platforms and social medias and I won't go through all that in detail, but definitely you can find us with Jen the builder at gmailcom. You can talk to her that way. And then also one real big new one is on buzzsprout, if you're listening, through that platform, we have opened up some ways to be able to communicate like that, so feel free to reach out to us anytime.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and you know what? I'm going to go ahead and put it on the notes too, so you see it in writing. And when I say that we are available for conversation and connecting, I mean I mean we, we are. So please feel free to to get to us. So let's start with this opening quote by stephen honking we ready, cory, we are ready all right, I love this. Don't hear it enough. So here it is, friends. It says the greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.

Speaker 2:

That can go so deep in so many different ways, and I'm ready for it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I love this because usually in conversation you hear people say ignorance is bliss right. I think this episode is exact opposite of that. We're inviting you to not stay in the spaces of ignorance, but rather seek truth and not believe the illusion of knowledge.

Speaker 2:

Right, because I think we've all discovered that ignorance is not bliss. As a matter of fact, it's pretty torturous when you're ignorant that's right.

Speaker 1:

So here's truth number one, and this one is a bit hard to swallow, but, man, I think it's so true the lie is louder than the truth. Well, I believe that wholeheartedly, because that's the way history has portrayed our path and when we talk about lies right now, for this episode, we're talking about those who are in authority. Okay, because we could talk about lies in relationships and friendships, but right now, in the climate that we're in, let's be real there's a lot of lies from authority. So who do we mean by authority?

Speaker 1:

well, that could be your government, your leadership systems that we have set up all around us, or that we're in media and even family because, we do consider family an authority figure I know that, no matter how old we get, our moms are still in an authority figure moms, dads, uncles, aunts, grandparents yes, so, corey, you are. I'm someone who studies history relentlessly and you've brought so much to the table on what you've learned, and that, in turn, challenges me to learn things and really go back in time. So what are some examples that come to your mind of historical lies from authority figures?

Speaker 2:

let's just say history, I mean overall, overall yeah um, the books were set up a certain way, they were written a certain way so that they could sway the reader to believe that history happened this way and only this way. Only certain facts are admitted, or or some are omitted. Some are omitted, but certain facts are removed from history. If you want some details, I'll go down my street, which is black history. A lot of black history was just simply removed. They focus solely on the slave trade andin luther king, and the rest is not in history and even the things they focus on.

Speaker 1:

Regarding martin luther king, right? Absolutely, yeah. So now please don't misunderstand us, cory and I will never, ever say that we've never lied. That's not the truth, no, right. So this is not that kind of judgment on people who lie. It's just the system has been set up to lie to us, and usually these lies are often dressed up as safety. Yes, right. Other reasons for these lies is control or for tradition's sake, right? So let me touch on that one.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I was about to say you might have to open that one up a little bit.

Speaker 1:

So safety control tradition? I'm going to touch on tradition because that's one that comes to my mind. This could be something as simple as well. We know that it's not completely correct or not completely right or not aligned with the higher way of our faith or our belief system, but we go ahead and do this celebration anyway because it's family tradition and it just always has been this way. So I find that people keep practicing a lie because it's something that they're used to, and it's almost as if to drop it means that you're going to lose a great family tradition. Now, I will say that it does feel like that initially, because it's been a part of your life for so long. But when you realize, you realize, man, I get to choose what I celebrate and I celebrate what's true. It's very freeing, but that feeling didn't come into play till a few years in. You know what I mean, right, yeah, and so what I'm talking about is traditions and holidays that are very tied to religion, that are actually not religious in practice.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, jen, I'm going to elaborate just a little bit so it's a little bit more palatable. There are things in holidays that derive from other religions, outside of what you may be normally practicing Like. A lot of people practice Christianity and so you think about maybe the Christmas tree or the Yule log. Those don't derive out of Christianity, they derive out of another religion, and a lot of people don't know that. They just believe that it's all a part of the holiday, so let's just celebrate it. I believe I'm a firm believer that you can't enjoy or truly celebrate something until you have all the truth that's in it or about it or around it, so that you can know what you're really celebrating.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think that's so important, yeah, so important. All right, so real quick, we want to mention the psychological toll of being told one thing and experiencing another, and I think that's the part that really bothers me when people in authority tell you a lie but you're experiencing a whole nother thing, like there's nothing to be worried about or stressed out about, Everything's fine. And everything in my body, everything I'm seeing and experiencing, says otherwise.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and even when you say I'm terrified, I'm scared, I don't know what's happening, and I need to know. You're constantly being convinced that there's nothing to be afraid of. You're overreacting and everything is going to be okay.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah. And Corey, I want to take a couple steps back, because I also want to note here that our agenda and our purpose for elevation is not to convince you of one way.

Speaker 2:

no, what we're really saying here is search the truth, right, don't believe that you have the knowledge because someone else told you this right, which is the illusion, but rather seek it for yourself well, the greatness in being an elevator someone who elev elevates is the ability to be able to determine what's true and what's not, and then you can have a bigger view of how to operate from that point.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you can make informed decisions, right? We hear that term a lot and I think we're in a place in our lives, in this world, where our decisions, they're always important, but they they're very critical right now. Yeah, right, so I have a question for you, sure, because I love. I love getting in your brain, and I know that we have people who reach out to us and say, man, I would, I would never go where cory went, but he really gave us something to think about. So or have you ever realized something that you believed from an authority figure? So you were like, wholehearted, man, this is good, this is the truth, and then you realized it was a lie absolutely um, multiple things when the numbers don't match up about anything, and the numbers just don't lie.

Speaker 2:

So if you do a calculation on an event and I don't care where it is in time or how long ago it you know it was told, and especially if it's even longer ago what happens is is when you start crunching the numbers and they don't add up and I'm talking about anything it changes everything inside of you because you realize at that moment that if you lied about the most simplest of things, the probability that you've lied about the big things goes even higher. It goes berserk in my mind.

Speaker 2:

So, I just learned look into everything, research things and don't take anything as gospel. And when I say that I don't mean like as the Bible, I mean don't just say it's true because someone said it. You have to tell yourself it's true, because I know it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, and I'd like to say something about that too, because when people bring things my way, a way to research, it is not just google. Guys like google this, oh see, google said and I've heard a lot of people say that, right.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 1:

Or ChatGPT said.

Speaker 2:

Or YouTube yes.

Speaker 1:

So with that multiple sources, right, get deep into it, because things are hidden. The authority doesn't want you to know certain things, so they're going to do a really good job at hiding these things. It's not going to be so obvious, right? So look into it, mark. I promise you you'll find some things that you'll be like. What?

Speaker 2:

and let's be clear, jen, I don't want to just blame it all on authority. I think in a lot of circumstances authority has tried to fix some of the misnomers or some of the mistruths that are out there, but because we as people double down on the narrative, we refuse to let it go and we find ourselves in a really bad situation because sometimes authority is saying hey, wait, wait, we've tried to change this, we've tried to tell you this and try to fix it.

Speaker 1:

Right. 10 years later, however long it is, we have to tell you the truth. We have to show you the records.

Speaker 2:

It's right there for you to see it and that's the part that I that really bugs me, because they've put it out, they've shown you, it's out there and sometimes it is on google or youtube and we still ignore it or look past it yeah, well, it's interesting because even when I do professional development workshops, I'll say you are going to seek I'm sorry, you are going to find what you seek, right.

Speaker 1:

So if I'm looking for something to prove what I think is right, that's exactly what I'm going to find. How wonderful would it be to say well, what if I'm I'm not wrong, but what else could it be? What else? What else is out there? Yeah, right. So I love what you're saying, Corey, because we're also not trying to come down hard on authority. I think for most things they maybe say the lies that they do to protect status quo, to keep from mass chaos or whatever. It is Right. So I think sometimes I get it, and then I also think, on the counter, that lies are being told for control or to put fear in people.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I have one side and one side only. I want to know the whole truth, nothing but the truth. So help me. And the reason why is because I want to know the whole truth, nothing but the truth. So help me. And the reason why is because I want to make my own decisions.

Speaker 1:

Right and manage your own feelings and emotions and go through it. Let me handle the truth. You know like it's almost. We're adults, we're competent, we're big kids now.

Speaker 2:

Exactly, and the thing is is that we've seen how some adults handle things and they don't handle it the way I do, they don't think about it the way I do, they don't process it the way I do, and so some things aren't a big deal to them because they're fine with not knowing. I've had people tell me straight up, you know what. I'm not really concerned about that, that doesn't bother me, like that.

Speaker 1:

And I'm like, oh okay, well, I am, I need to know, right, right. So it's almost like that question are you sure you want the? Truth yes, and then I say yes, give it to me, or are you able to handle. This is from a movie, I think, with jack nicholson and tom cruise right, you can to handle this. This is from a movie, I think, with Jack Nicholson and Tom Cruise right, you can't handle the truth.

Speaker 2:

You can't handle the truth.

Speaker 1:

Ask me if I'm able to. And then it's on me. I have the ownership, the accountability to say well, I asked for it and you gave it to me, but I'm really interested.

Speaker 2:

Who, listening, doesn't want to know the truth? And if you can reach out to us or connect with us, please do so. And I'm very um my, my antennae are high and alert because I really want to know who does not care about if they're being told the truth or not yeah, so I'm going to answer um that indirectly.

Speaker 1:

Okay, there are times in my life based on where I'm at emotionally, mentally, and just challenges I'm going through, where, although I want to know the truth, I know that I can't process it or it'll send me over the edge, right, and I think this episode is very edgy and and I'm totally okay with that. So I almost want to say can you bank it somewhere, can you put it right there on that shelf so that when I'm ready, it's right there for me to take it in?

Speaker 1:

right, you know what I mean, yeah um, and sometimes you'll tell me stuff, cory, and it looks like I'm checked out, but it's really okay. I need to move certain things to make room for this, because right now I'm on overload right, you know, I've seen that.

Speaker 2:

Look, it's the deer in headlights, like what is happening.

Speaker 1:

I was like I already feel heavy.

Speaker 2:

This just got extremely, extremely heavy but I want to do the the listeners a favor, because we're doing a lot of vague round and about type of conversation. Let's throw out one tangible thing that people have been and no, it's not going to be that thing that you're thinking about. I promise you it's going to be about aliens. We were told for years that they don't exist. We were told that the ships that people were seeing and spotting that was nothing. It comes out one day that aliens are here and then the very next day, it was an experiment or an exercise that the military was putting on, and so you fast forward to 2022, 2021, 2020, whatever it was, and we get these reports that saying it's true, they are there, they're out here. Right, that that was a lie, that did not need to be told I bet you right now people are googling aliens absolutely yeah, why not?

Speaker 2:

but that that lie lasted, I mean, even as far back as roswell. I think that was in the 40s or 50s you know, don't quote me on that one.

Speaker 1:

I'm not sure what year the roswell thing happened, but people were told that they were literally crazy and that that did not happen so I think, with a good point on that, because with this comes emotional gaslighting, yeah, which on top of the lie is just an, is an insult to injury, right?

Speaker 1:

yeah like oh, that's not true, oh, you're overreacting, oh you're such a con um conspiracy theorist, right? Or that's not what was said, right? So, corey, let's and we can talk about it, or we can ask our friends to do some research, or let us know what you all think Is what are three ways to recognize when you're being gaslit by someone in power? What's something that's commonly said?

Speaker 2:

in power. What's something that's commonly said?

Speaker 1:

um, I can't get the exact phrasing, but I know it's built around. It's for your safety.

Speaker 2:

Yeah you just gotta trust us right, we we'd never lead you astray or when they lead you to believe that education gives them more knowledge or more than you could ever find, because you're not as educated as we are Right.

Speaker 1:

so you start to self-doubt and it really gets confusing, right?

Speaker 2:

And the one I hate the most is when it turns into a philosophical word salad that very few people even understand what you're saying.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and it doesn't even address the question at hand. Absolutely Right, Good ones, All right. So let's go into the cost of silence. My first question is what happens when people don't speak up?

Speaker 2:

More harm, more hurt, more distrust. You find yourself in a much more vulnerable place. I've seen people go into depression, high anxiety, looking for more lies so that they can figure out how to deal with the one lie.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think it brings about a place to the erosion of your own self-trust. Yeah, Because I've asked myself why didn't you say anything right there? What's wrong with you? Like you know, this is wrong and you're not saying anything, right, and that really plays a part on you. Can I help a little?

Speaker 2:

bit right here, please. Um, the best way, when you know that you're being lied to about something that's important, is just to ask a question and and if you don't get the answer you're looking for, that's probably the better thing, because I ask questions knowing somewhat of what the answer is and if you give me an outlandish, wrong, absurd type of answer, it just doubles down and proves even more that, hey, I'm on the right track.

Speaker 1:

That is really good advice.

Speaker 2:

I'm not too far off a base that I thought I was, because this person just went way overboard. And that's the crazy thing Liars can't just tell you a simple lie. It has to be elaborate and layered.

Speaker 1:

Yeah and over-explained.

Speaker 2:

There you go.

Speaker 1:

I think silence, too, is an act of complicity. So by being silent, we continue the lies, we enable it Right. So I love this reflection moment question that we talked about earlier between you and I. It's what lie have I been living with because I didn't want to rock the boat?

Speaker 1:

Man that one goes deep. I think that is a whole nother episode or two, but I just want to make sure to leave that out there and maybe it'll land with someone and your challenge to lean into this question. And that again was what lie have I been living with because I didn't want to rock the boat, and how long have I been living with this lie? And you know, just seem out the toll it's taken on me on you.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'll say this about that when you're living a lie and you're forced to live with it and forced to believe that everything is all right when you know it's not.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

It eats at you. Yeah, moment by moment, day after day, year after year, it just really gnaws at you, because you know it never goes away. It's like you think you would just forget about it and you can move on. But you can't.

Speaker 1:

It's like nephrotic tissue, right, Like if you have something on your body that's infected. It just grows and you may not see the signs and symptoms of an infection till later, but then it's out of control. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Right, and just to give a cap to that, jen and I had to have that conversation about some things that we were living with other people and with each other, just to I don't know a slay the dragon, so to speak. You know, get it out the way and just get it in the open.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

All truth shouldn't go to everyone, but most truths need to be told at least to someone.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, absolutely, and so I think of people in our lives that may do that through someone they trusted to church or through a coach, a therapist, a partner that's so healthy and needed to have that. So I think it leads beautifully into this part that truth telling is survival. Truth telling is survival Like. So here's where we want to give some really good tips on truth telling as a form of survival. So how to spot the truth when authority spins a lie, right?

Speaker 2:

Do you have any sound advice on that? Again, when you want to spot a lie, listen to the details. There's usually too many, and because there's so many details, something's conflicting. One of those details is going to conflict with another one, so it just doesn't make sense, right? And when you have all that information, you just sit with it and put it together again. The numbers never lie, and so if it's 20 miles from your home to work, it's always going to be 20 miles. If there's ever two or three extra miles added in there, then there's a lie okay, okay.

Speaker 1:

I also think too that you know I love the word curiosity when you're in conversation and you posture in curiosity, and you said earlier in this episode ask a question, Do not not say anything, because asking a question even if you get the wrong answer or the answer you're not looking for, it still puts you out there.

Speaker 1:

The wrong answer or the answer you're not looking for, it still puts you out there. So I think, in this way too, is get curious about what you're being told. Ask the questions, find out your own answers. I love how questions build, don't you?

Speaker 2:

I love that. I also love that if you ask a question and it provokes the person, that's a big red flag, the defense comes up, yeah.

Speaker 1:

So I think it's important that we build our own filters. We've talked about doing research, critical thinking. Right, it does require time and energy, but it's so worth it to sift through. Another word, another concept, another fact, another power that I love that we have is intuition yes, intuition, and I was talking to my doctor and we were talking about intuition, and I love this part too, because it's very much tied to your gastrointestinal system.

Speaker 2:

Your gut.

Speaker 1:

Your gut, yeah, your gut.

Speaker 2:

Your gut yeah.

Speaker 1:

Like physically and he says, the more people take care of their gut physically. There's research and studies that have shown a tie to stronger intuition and picking up on that voice right.

Speaker 2:

Right. I love that you said that, because there's a couple of things within that. So you got to trust your gut, especially if it's healthy. That's number one. Number two there are things we're doing to ourselves that we've been told is OK to do.

Speaker 2:

I'm a big proponent in exposing some things that are dangerous for us. Microwave rays are dangerous for us. That that blocks and breaks down and hurts parts of our body. Aluminum directly in our body is dangerous for us, so it blocks and breaks down, you know. So if you have multiple things that you're blocking and breaking down in your body, your gut can't decipher properly, and so the quicker you get to a clean gut, the quicker you get to a clean body, the faster you can determine some of the things that are being told to you. And I just want to really close my portion with this. The importance of this is that if you're a parent, if you're a coach, if you're a leader, if you're someone of authority that can be trusted, trust me, people will go to you first because they'll say, oh no, I can ask him or her because I know they know the truth, or I know they'll tell me the truth and we can be okay with that answer and then get some more information after getting the truth.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah. So that ties into truth-telling and survival, finding those voices you trust.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

And if you are the voice that someone trusts, what an honor. That is right. And I think people that we look to for that voice of trust are people who are strong in what they stand in. And it may not be something you stand in as well, something you believe in, but the fact that someone is firm and on solid ground on their beliefs and their values is so key yeah so find someone like that, a mentor, someone in your community, someone in the same faith or not, whatever that looks like.

Speaker 1:

Corey, there's this the fact that we brought up that truth is often quieter than fear, and I would just love, if you don't mind, to elaborate on that for a few.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that saying is so powerful because a lot of people would just rather keep their head in the sand. They don't want to talk about it, because it's easier to deal with whatever you're going through if you just don't face the facts or the truth about it. So I'd rather be silent instead of talking about it, because when you're talking about it then someone might come to a conclusion that we've been misled in the first place and honestly, people don't like to admit. I've been misled, I'm being misled and I'm not doing anything about it. So just be quiet.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. So people have come to me about Jen. You were quiet during that meeting and I think because truth is often quieter than fear when I am reactive and I'm having these knee-jerk responses, it's because fears overcome me. When I'm silent, I'm able to listen and decipher and try to figure it out within me and then I definitely circle back to it. So people who have worked with me know that when you offload something big with me, know that when you offload something big, I am quiet and you will hear from me, because I want it to be a meaningful conversation.

Speaker 1:

Right, I want to be able to hear what you're saying and also I want to be heard because there's this other thing that we've talked about, too, where truth doesn't need a shout, it just needs to be heard. Right, and I think you added it needs to be heard and shared.

Speaker 2:

Yeah right, I'm not a fearful person, jen, you know this. Uh, as far as you know facts or fiction or even lies, um, there's only been one situation that I've been I I can tell you the truth about all the conspiracies that I believe in and all that good stuff, but the one thing that really shook me to my core was COVID. There was a lot of information going out that we knew.

Speaker 1:

There's no way we could have known that kind of information. I feel, yeah, to make a sound decision on what to do.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, there was information that we knew wasn't quite right. We knew that some of this stuff was hip pocket policies that were just coming out at a moment's notice, but I fell into that fear category, not in the beginning. In the beginning, I think, I was just really out there and talking about it, but then the threats and all the bullying set in and it was like, oh my God, this is a real thing and this is going to get much worse before it gets any kind of better. Let me shut my mouth, let me be quiet before I find myself in a really strange situation, and that experience has really changed me in my core, because I've never not been talkative about something and I found myself literally just silenced. Yeah, and I've made some, some vows to myself since then, and and I don't think it's appropriate to talk about that right now but I just know a change has to come and I want to be that change. I'm not, I'm not okay with that.

Speaker 1:

Right, so it's definitely something you've learned from. Oh yeah, and because I think I know what you're talking about, a question that comes to my mind for us and everyone listening, is what's the truth you reclaimed after surviving a lie?

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 1:

And you did survive it and you are in that spirit of reclaiming and not having to go through that type of being silenced again. Yeah, and that leaves you feel powerless yeah, yeah, powerless.

Speaker 2:

And like I was saying, ptsd is a real thing. You have those flashback moments and you're like frozen, like oh, do I? Yeah, what do I say, what do I do?

Speaker 1:

I don't ever want to feel that again, absolutely I think for me, my reclaiming of my truth and this hasn't come up at all during this episode. I'm going to touch on it lightly and if y'all want to hear more on this story, I have no problem sharing the story. As a child who has gone through sexual abuse, you can only imagine what lies I believed as a result of these people and authority over me based on their actions. And it wasn't later on in life that I reclaimed my truth, that I didn't ask for it, I didn't deserve it. I'm better than that. I can still experience a whole loving relationship. I don't have to be a victim. That doesn't define me. It defines them, but not me.

Speaker 2:

I'm so glad you said that Absolutely, it defines them, but not me. I'm so glad you said that Absolutely it defines them, not you. Yeah, wow, powerful, absolutely.

Speaker 1:

So authority has you know? Another question is how is your definition of authority evolved? I do want to say this because we do, thankfully, have people that are in authority over us, that are sound, that speak the truth, that don't lead us astray, and if you're listening to this episode, you know who you are and we're so grateful for you. And I, my mindset has changed for some authority, because I'm like man. I would hate to be in that position. That's a tough position to be in, to lead these many people and have such an impact and have to be able to deliver the truth and take accountability. That's a whole nother topic accountability and ownership.

Speaker 1:

Yeah and ownership, yeah, but um, yeah, I feel like and I don't want to misquote the good book but there is so much truth in feeling free from knowing the truth and being able to speak it the book says the truth will set you free that's right. That's right. I hope y'all have a good day. Thanks for tuning in and we will be back in a week and you know us to take the elevator. We say look up and let's elevate, elevate Every day, elevate Every day. Elevate every day. Elevate every day, elevate every day.

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